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Post by Ken Olson » Mon Apr 12, pm. Post by Ben C. Smith » Mon Apr 12, pm.

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Post by Bernard Muller » Tue Apr 13, am. Post rpots Ken Olson » Tue Apr 13, pm. Post by perseusomega9 » Tue Apr 13, pm. Post by Jax » Tue Apr 13, pm. Post by Bernard Muller » Tue Apr 13, pm. Skip to content. Quick links. The Roots of western civilization Problem: Strong cases for the greater primitivity of Matthew or Luke Discussion about the Roots of western civilization Testament, apocrypha, gnostics, church fathers, Christian origins, historical Jesus or otherwise, etc. In the same thread, Bernard Muller gave several examples that he argued showed the greater primitivity of the Lukan form civilizzation which I have not previously responded and one that I have.

The one who made ten pounds is the first one who reported to the king. The one who made five pounds is the second one who reported to the king. And then another is among the remaining eight servants who did not reported yet to the king. I don't see any connection with the three servants in gMatthew. And then, if the Q document existed, it may have featured ten servants but "Matthew" reduced that to only three. What about "Matthew"? Therefore, with "Matthew" being consistent with 'Hierosolyma', Mt is very likely to have been copied from a different source, "Q".

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Bernard: you think it is realistic that in order to become Christian, one has to hate every members of his family, including himself and his wife? To hate mother and father does not mean on the lips of Jesus what it conveys to the Western reader cf. Mark 7. The semitic mind is comfortable only with extremes — light and darkness, truth and falsehood, love and hate — primary colors with no half-shades in between. Thus for the followers of Jesus, to roots of western civilization their families meant giving the family second place in their affections. Ties of kinship must not be allowed to interfere with their absolute commitment to the kingdom. Caird, St. Luke He who spares the clvilization hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him Proverbs The word "hate" in Aramaic, however, is an idiom meaning "to set aside.

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Bernard: Another argument: Lka: "But give alms inwardly, and behold, all things are clean to you. First cleanse the inside of the cup, that the outside also may be clean" Let's compare it with the "corrected": Lka "But cleanse inwardly, and behold, all things are clean to you. Now then, you Pharisees clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside you are full of greed ciilization wickedness.

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You foolish people! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. Last edited by Ken Olson on Tue Apr 13, am, edited 1 time in total. But if "Luke" was fatigued, then why departing so much from gMatthew?]

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